carmela bogman + rogier martens: pop-up

du you want to realy sit down here? there are so many shit on the streets. The idea is good just not enough

axioma   05.17.10

Okay, the next thing the kids will do is put rats, hands, or dogs underneath the seats to crush them. That's the safety hazard. There's nothing to stop things from being crushed underneath. That's why it will never work in NY, unless like elevators, it can detect something is underneath. Lawsuits!

Veronica   05.17.10

I think this is the beginning of a good idea, but as the comments already point out, it has two problems... first that the tops of the table are likely to be so dirty they won't be useful for anything (and you would be reluctant to use them) and the possibility that the contraption can be abused. It needs more thought. What occurred to me is... what about shelters for the homeless which can be brought out?

Fee Berry   05.17.10

yea would never happen. finger traps public liability. missuse lawsuits claims. no there is a reason why this does not exist.

carl   05.17.10

needs to be solid blocks so you dont trap anything underneath when it sinks.

Raawven   05.17.10

.....solid blocks - then let kids get their fingers trapped between the blocks and the pavement....

besides, solid blocks won't stop the dog crap, tramp piss, spilt milk and ...and...and....

otherwise a great idea!

Dr. Design   05.17.10

mmmmm, subway floor sandwich . . .

onemanwithapencil   05.17.10

crushing things underneath it can be avoided by adding some extra vertical margin

slaslip   05.17.10

carmela bogman + rogier martens: death trap

Salty   05.17.10

isn t clean!

rudy   05.17.10

the idea is good..but not to be outdoor..maybe some patio at a services buildins..or shopping...or something else....but outdoor it is dangerous..and not clean enougth

iva   05.18.10

scuttle this bad idea. it's a trap for all kinds of disasters and lawsuits. please don't make the lawyers busy. they have a full deck in their dockets as it is.

nelson d reyes   05.18.10

AN EXTREMELY LARGE NUT CRACKER?

squirrel   05.18.10

Have a person from the neighbourhood raise them in the morning (and give them a wipe down) and then lower them in the evening. The person can see that there are no hazards before raising or lowering them and they will be clean (at least at the start of each day). They will be protected from vandalism by being lowered at night and more resistant to tampering. Great idea.

Harvey Millstone   05.19.10

This a wrong concept, a wrong product. It's always dirty, full of dogy shit. If something gows under these benches, like a child's leg or finger, a cat, even a rat, it will be pressed.

Pegah   05.19.10

permission from the neighbourhood. what a crank..!

harvy millstones mum.   05.19.10

Its a Crazy Idea.

In fact the space below can be used by Commuters itself for their luggage (just an example).
Every night respective corpotion can clean it up when there is no traffic at al.

But ye i agree it needs to Modify more..!!!

Hardik Joshi   05.19.10

Maybe be they call be installed with some sort of saefty motion detector... to avoid "accidents", and I like the idea of it suggested as additional storagespace. I believe developed further is very multifunctional actually and believe it should not be ruled out completely because people are not interested in finding any positive criticism/potential solutions etc. Not every country has laws like America where people abuse the system because they know that their system abuses them even more, though that is just how I see it.

Admittedly the cleaning aspect when used in a public space is not so interesting, though in the context of private use or a controlled environment (hotel,restaurant, schools, just to name a few... could benefit exponentially from such type of usage of space.

In the end people clean practically everything they have at some point (the trendy consumer society). It seems to be an acceptabl neccessity. And what happens with conventional tables for example... you leave them there all seasons? Are they durable and weather resistant? If not you will possibly need storage space, the effort of moving them in and out, maybe damaging them in the process. If they are resistant, do they take up space you may wish to use for other things...?

I just wanted to say that playing the "Devil's advocate" with negative criticism doesn't help anyone...

A "bad" idea can always lead to others... right?

So as my Mum and Dad say.... if you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all.

I think the general concept is not bad at all, and can go further.

foolishsoul   05.19.10

You could use this for restaurant/bar/cafe terraces.
When the program is finished.. lower the table/seats..

Tiberius   05.20.10

harvy millstones mum is a crank. Get over yourself

crank   05.22.10