dror peleg: frii plastic bike

Nice idea, but design could be better!

Dario   07.24.11

In such a products I would like to see more images of actual model. Especially someone riding a bike. Just to realize the proportions etc. Renderings do not really tell much and are easy way of "cutting corners".

Aaro   07.24.11

"compared to the construction of the traditional metal bicycle, this process is less labor-intensive and more accessible:..."

Perhaps less labor-intensive, but how come a machine that is capable of producing such a huge injection moulded piece is more accessible than welding equipement?

Rad   07.24.11

cleaning it would take too much. time is such an important factor in today´s lifestyle

rodrigo   07.25.11

The seat looks very uncomfortable.

nephco   07.25.11

Wow, looks like we have a few negative-Nancys up in this comment thread.

This bike is EFFIN BRUTAL! and a refreshing approach to the ever-so-popular "bicycle reboot project."

TheManeuver   07.25.11

Amazing project!! Looks great, and let me tell you, I would buy it ( and even clean it!!) ;)

JesseP   07.25.11

Love the color palette! The first pic is my favorite
Good job!

Memmoo   07.25.11

Smart construction, it looks a bit like Barbi bike. But maybe that's a good thing

Sunnyk   07.25.11

Israeli design rocks!!

Megabits   07.25.11

You can simply wash it in the yard with a hose. Cleaning a product was never a factor for me. It's simple and smart, you have my vote.

Pier D   07.25.11

Proud of you Drorito!

Joyce   07.25.11

I would be careful with the forms used in the rear triangle. there is significant torsional loading in this area and the sharp triangular shapes and sharp corners could lead to catastrophic failure. The stress concentrations possible with section reductions towards critical areas is maybe not the best of ideas. On top of this, the large number of weld-lines created by the eighties inspired shutter/shade features would probably not help. There have been quite a few attempts at plastic bikes in the past, and in general they end up being significantly more flexible than a comparable steel or aluminium framed bike. this is not to say it cant be done, it just requires having different goals to achieve (ie. don't expect a race ready bike with good power transmission, and that is not the goal here I presume... indeed you could try using the flexibility to your advantage). Given that at best the young`s modulus of a continuous glass reinforced polymer is ~25GPa and Aluminium is ~70GPa (lets for the sake of it call it stiffness), you start to get an idea of the design challenges (and I'm being generous with 25GPa as this is not necessarily easily processable in all shapes and forms...). To design with polymers, sections need to be increased dramatically to get a comparable stiffness. One other thing, although not critical, it would be an idea to maintain an uneven spoke pattern on the rear wheel. This will, with a bit of luck, ensure a greater deal of circularity. This is because the shrinkage along the spokes will be higher than where there is not a spoke, and bizarrely, this helps to keep things round. If you have two spokes aligned across the diameter of a circle, you can end up with a clover leaf shaped wheel... not so great for vibration. But other than that, quite cool. I like the chunky style to it. (and take my advice for what it's worth, I mean, what do I know...?).

brayn   07.25.11

Experimenting is nice. The "thing" is a fail. I wonder what the premises were ....

noes'   07.25.11

I praise the intent and execution. Design is a collaborative process and is only when you present an idea to a diverse panel like this that you are able to get different perspectives so you can improve and grow as a designer. As bryan stated, the design has some flaws that could be overcome by reconsidering some elements and now you have some solid advice. You are now in a great position where utilizing some of the constructive commentaries on this thread can lead you to a refined idea. After all, you have done the bulk of the work and this is what it takes to arrive at a great solution, great job

Dave   07.25.11

maybe first some more research after contemporary bicycle trends. then you would know that this design would never sell.
good idea though!

rubwie   07.25.11

I want one

Fiveinchmonsters   07.25.11

Greate Project!

Caratiola   07.25.11

Man, there's something wery wrong with this design.

AJ   07.25.11

I love the project! way to go Dror!!!

kobysea   07.25.11

I want one today... though I'd want to choose my own color palette so I didn't necessarily have to look as though I were riding a Trapper Keeper circa 1986.

Phoenix   07.25.11

The goat says: Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad design!
most definitly, the large injection parts would be more expensive than traditional bike
manufacturing. The plastic parts would have to be made out of Nylon, or, POM which are nessasery for strength, however, not cost effective if you have a mass production in mind.

I do appreciate the out of the box thinking, however.


Yuki

Yuki   07.26.11

Honestly, can this guy no longer tell what is visually appealing and what isn't?

This thing looks like the underside of a cheap plastic rake.

Fail sir, pure fail.

Side note: if I was 3, I'd probably ride it.

J Bananas   07.26.11

This would be pretty easy to steal as well.

Tdog   07.26.11

I think the title should be: "Frii really ugly plastic bike", it fits better.

Maybe it´s less labour in the building, but it raises more problems then it solves.

What?   07.26.11

I'd like to see what the rider weight limit is.

ftbotsb   07.26.11

I love it! But I agree with some that there shouldve been some more pictures verifying the practicality of this bike! Still a great effort!

Shoaib   07.27.11

We are at 2011. Design is not any more doing pretty objects. Every product need his "raison d'etre" and it's not there.
This bike designed to be at design magazines and will never meet a road.

R.D   07.27.11

How could we become a distributor in the USA
mikedomino@hotmail.com

mike domino   07.27.11

This design looks so 90' to me. I made something similar for an international contest (http://goo.gl/OhIEA). Also the idea was just a concept a starting point for something more. I really like this one, in particular the way that some details are solved, I like even more that my desing in some aspects. All the the comments here are very interesting, I wishid to have comments like these when I was designing the bike would have been very good. I also think the same that R.D. This kind of desing hardly go to production. To bad. -.-

Sergio Scotta   07.28.11

Looks terrible, The lines are stodgy and clumsy. It has no aerodynamics. Just terrible..

john   07.28.11

well - volvo was there in the 80'ies - it didn't work back then! - volvo itera LOL

hetz@hetz.dk   07.28.11

PS. I DO LOVE IT ;)

hetz@hetz.dk   07.28.11

Sure it's colorful,.... but strength and flexibility, I don't think are the same of a traditional bike, let alone elegance and there is one big question I have: How much does it weight?

m25   07.28.11

I'm interested in this idea,so i want to talk about it with the designer.
And who knows DROR PELEG? Please tell me ,thanks.
Also you can contact me by email: jfttzz@163.com

jiang feng   07.30.11